Logitech G Extreme 3D Pro USB Joystick for Windows - Black/Silver

For starters, it's cheap, functional, and durable enough, but don't expect it to be a HOTAS. I would say that anyone who is interested in using a joystick for a game like war thunder should buy this stick. To understand what I'm trying to say please realize that this is coming from someone who bought this stick for the explicit reason of starting out on a joystick. It has almost been a year since I bought it, and I want to discuss using joysticks versus the mouse before I discuss this one model. Anyone who is buying a joystick for the first time needs to understand the very different world they are entering when they do so. I don't want anyone being deceived; it is much more difficult to use a joystick than a mouse. The joystick does give you more authority over the aircraft than mouse and keyboard, which can be an obvious advantage. However, the mouse and keyboard allows you to focus on simply pointing the aircraft where you want to go and employing the weapons while the computer optimizes the control inputs. With the joystick you are the one that eases the aircraft into and out of the turn; you set the banking of the aircraft. This is not as easy as it seems at first. When you first start, your brain will want to think that all you have to do to bank the aircraft ten degrees is to hold the stick at a ten degree angle. The next thing you know the aircraft is upside down because you forgot to return the stick to neutral. Like I said, it’s a very different experience and it requires a bit of a learning curve. In fact, most people stick to flying with the mouse and keyboard because of the difficulty of transitioning, and the time it can take to start getting kills with the joystick (I still do better with the mouse than the joystick). Now, in regards to this particular product, Logitech has a reputation with me of making virtually indestructible computer peripherals. Okay, so they’re made of flimsy plastics. But they have still survived many drops and some rough handling from yours truly. Additionally I would say that the price is right for something you might buy, use a couple of times, and then never touch again. And the product gives you everything you need in order to have full authority over your aircraft. This way you can at least make an informed decision whether or not you want to use a joystick; then you can upgrade to a more expensive HOTAS system if you so choose. Durability is apparently a hit or miss proposition. I have seen many reviews saying that the neutral position will shift over time. I have not seen this. The only problem that I have seen so far is that the hat switch was unusable on Microsoft Flight. This scared me at first, but when I got the joystick to work on War Thunder (not the easiest thing to do), the hat switch worked fine. The only real gripes I have with the Extreme 3D Pro are that it isn’t a HOTAS nor will it ever be one, and that the stick is a little rough when switching roll or pitch direction. This last complaint is commonly mentioned in the reviews of every joystick I looked at below 100 dollars. This is only a problem when making very intricate maneuvers such as when dog fighting. In fact it only started to become a problem for me when I was trying to fly in War Thunder’s realistic mode, and it became a substantial issue when I tried simulator mode. CONCLUSION: this is not a stick for the simulator enthusiast. This is a starter stick, something you can buy without guilt if you decide you don’t enjoy flying with a joystick. And for those who do enjoy flying with joysticks, it is something that can be used until they can get a more complex system. This is after all nothing but a joystick with throttle axis and a few buttons. Those who like joysticks will eventually want more buttons and a better throttle, but those cost money and money causes guilt if you’re not among the joystick enthusiasts.

I picked this up to use with some 80's era PC flight sims. Back in the day, I used a Flight Stick exclusively for such gaming. The smooth light touch of the unit plus the ergonomics of the grip were unmatched by other accessories of the day. After recently stumbling across a couple of abandonware DOS flight / combat games I used to play, I decided that I might take flight once again. I tried keyboard only control and did not get the sensitivity required for high difficulty settings. That's when I decided to purchase a modern USB joystick with all the bells and whistles. The Extreme 3D Pro definitely comes with a lot of features. I took the time to program all of the buttons using the software I downloaded from the manufacturer's site. The configuration software is not very intuitive but I figured it out after a couple of missteps. With anticipation, I fired up the DOSBOX emulator and loaded F-19 Stealth Fighter. "Do you have a joystick?" Yes, I responded and went through the calibration steps. The game loaded and I started a mission. Sitting on the tarmac, I slid the throttle lever forward... nothing. Hmmm. I tried to cycle through my armaments... nothing. Double hmmm. OK, maybe I have to get in the air first - "Shift +" gets me to full throttle and I'm off. Engage autopilot... nothing. Alright, is this thing working at all? Bank right... OK, we do have control of the flight surfaces. Pull the trigger... brrrrrrrrt... guns are working. Open the bay doors (using the keyboard) and press button 2... pshhooo... missile away. OK, so you probably have figured it out by now. It doesn't appear that the Logitech configuration software gets ported into the DOS emulator and because of that, all you are left with is a four axis joystick with two buttons. In as much as that is how I used to play these games back in the late 80's, I can't say I'm disappointed. My only criticism of the Extreme 3D Pro is that it is very stiff. That being said once you get used to how much force is required to affect the flight surfaces, it is not that big of a deal. The reset to center is actually better because of how stiff the retaining ring is. All in all, I am satisfied with the purchase and have logged a couple of pretty impressive missions that otherwise would have been impossible if I was still using keyboard control. It's just a shame that the joystick has so much customization potential that is rendered inaccessible because I'm playing inside an emulator.

If I'm remembering correctly, I've owned three Logitech Extreme3D Pro input devices over the many years they've been produced by Logitech, and recently purchased a fourth for a novice armchair pilot I'm introducing to the flight sim world. I have used the Extreme3D Pro primarily for flight simming, but I have also used it to reasonable effect for motorcycle and car simulators; I have found the Extreme3D Pro to shine brightest when used to control a flight simulator. While there are much, much more impressive input devices on the market today, the Extreme3D Pro is an excellent, no-nonsense device for the novice and experienced flight simmer. The Extreme3D Pro provides pitch, roll, yaw, and throttle in one device, and supports 12 programmable functions plus a programmable 8 position "hat" switch. The base is large relative to the height and throw of the stick, and is stable with all but the most agressive stick inputs (i.e., the base stays put as long as you don't bang the stick to the stops). The buttons on the stick are well-placed, making it easy for the novice to learn to use to good effect. The throttle is a small rotating paddle on the base behind the stick. I have found the throw of the throttle lever to be large enough to provide a good feel for adjusting throttle settings with default gains in the sims I've used with the Extreme3D Pro. Likewise, the rotation of the stick for yaw control in flight sims (that's how I've used it over the years) is natural, with good feel given default gains in the sims I've use with the Extreme3D Pro. Logitech placed 6 of the 12 buttons on the base. Those 6 buttons could have been laid out better to accommodate the natural left-hand placement on the base while using the throttle paddle. Speaking of hand placement, there might be a version of the Extreme3D Pro for South Paws, but I haven't seen one; the stick is definately meant for use by the right hand. The buttons often have functions defined by default settings in the most popular (flight) sims available today, so there is little or no need to customize the allocation of functions to buttons other than personal preference. Logitech has a rather crude, though effective, application that enables the user to program functions for the buttons, but the experienced and expert simmer will likely want to customize the allocations within their flight sim instead, saving system resources for the simulator to eek out every frame per second you can. I use the Logitech app to calibrate the joystick, but I use the simulator's function allocator to customize what the input device is controlling and how (e.g., function allocation, command repeat and rate, gain, dead-zone, non-linearity). I have not had an Extreme3D Pro fail the same way twice (yet). The construction is rugged, and the buttons have never failed on me. As the stick gets on in age, though, you might notice a persistent drifting in the calibration of the stick, or a "stuttering" in the throttle. When I've taken apart such miss-behaving sticks that are out of warrantee (it's always started to happen out of warrantee), I've found a lot of gunk in and around the sensors for the stick. Cleaning that up usually solved the problem. However, since the Extreme3D Pro is so inexpensive to purchase, and since they last so long with light to moderate use (i.e., not repeatedly slamming the stick or throttle from one stop to another during aggressive inputs...not that I have much experience with that ;-), by the time you get any kind of anomalies in the device you'll probably be in the mood for a replacement or an upgrade. All in all, I've been very satisfied with the Logitech Extreme3D Pro, particularly when used for flight simming. It makes a great first joystick or as a replacement for a low- to mid-range joystick.

This is one of those products that is so great, you feel compelled to leave a review. I haven't owned a joystick for a very long time, since the 90s actually. I had one back then for playing the classic 6 degree of freedom games like Descent 1 and Descent 2. Skip ahead 25 years-- I just got a gaming PC and came to find out that the classic descents (with improved gameplay and graphics) still exist, as well as their long-awaited successor, Overload. This joystick is perfect for those games, and it's bringing back all the nostalgia from long ago. The other game I play this with is Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020). Using the joystick and keyboard alone no doubt is as fancy as some of the huge cockpits designed specifically for flight simulator games, but the simplicity of just having a joystick that works is great. You can control everything with this joystick in Microsoft Flight Simulator and it works great. Other things: Quality is very high. Button layout is intuitive and there are plenty of them. Accuracy of sensors inside the joystick feels spot on. Windows 10 recognized it immediately, as well as the games that I use it for. Con: On occasion when playing descent, the joystick will move on me. It is weighted well, but could be slightly heavier. I'm probably cranking on it more in descent that most people will for most games. Overall, besides making it slightly heavier, I'm not really sure what I'd change. It's a workhorse of a joystick that I expect to last for years. Price was not bad either, especially compared to other options.

I bought two of these for myself to use with mech games, and use one standalone for flying games primarily Squadrons and Microsoft Flight Sim. Liked it enough to get 3 more as gifts for some friends. I keep seeing people complain that it's not compatible with Windows 10/11, which is just blatantly untrue. This stick has worked plug and play on Win 10/11 on 3 different pcs. I've plugged it into the passthrough on my keyboard (usually how I connect), into my front usb (with all of the other ports also connected with headphone/keyboard/mouse dongles), and into the back of my motherboard with no issues. There's no force feedback or any crazy features like that, so from what I've noticed a regular usb port should be enough to provide power, but try a powered usb hub if you have issues. I'm seeing a lot of unfair reviews from people claiming this stick doesn't work and that they do not want to do extra work to make it work. This is only the case for games that don't support this stick (I've found it supported in most games that support Flight sticks in general). Flight stick profiles are not always included in games even if it seems like it should be (ie won't work out of the box on flight modes in Battlefront 2). Personally, I took about 15 minutes to do a Google search on how to map my Flight stick (or two in some cases) as a 360 controller. Took another 5 minutes to setup and now I'm able to use the sticks in anything that supports 360 as well. Similar utilities exist to convert the flight stick to keyboard/mouse controls for games that support neither. TLDR: This stick is a great budget option, works fine with Win 11/10, just make sure the game you want to play supports Flight Sticks if you don't want to use a utility to convert your stick to a 360 controller or keyboard/mouse.

I recently got into DCS and needed a stick to begin my journey. I didn't want to fully invest into a proper setup yet as I wanted to test the waters and see if I will even like the game. I was recommended the Extreme 3D Pro from various forums as it's both cheap and offer a decent amount of programmable buttons for the price point. The stick itself is well built for the most part. There is a bit of play with the twist rudder control but it doesn't hinder the real world use of the stick from my experience. I was surprised by how well balanced the stick was in relation to the base. I've had no issues with it sliding or lifting during my DCS sessions. A nice addition to the stick is the throttle slider control. It's small but it works well. The trigger is surprisingly satisfying to click. It's a bit shallow but it has a springy click to it. As for the usage during DCS, I found it very good for the Flaming Cliffs modules. With modifiers I was able to assign multiple key binds onto the same button which made game play much more fluid. Having to use the HAT button sucked for looking around the cockpit in my opinion. Having a head tracker is definitely preferable. One issue I came across was that the twist rudder was interrupting my flight by engaging the rudders when I didn't intend to. I fixed this by adding a significant dead zone to the rudder axis using the "Axis Tune" tab on the controls section. With this in mind I also did the same with my pitch and roll axis by adding a curve to reduce some of the sensitivity. Overall I highly recommend this stick for beginners. It will do the job until you decide to move onto something better.

So yes, this is cheap and it will work. There is one major caveat. If you are using this for rudder, be prepared to hate life. The twist on this stick has a slight loose spot around center. This doesn't sound terrible, and for most flight sticks it probably wouldn't be. However, the loose direction is all in one direction, so your rudder will constantly pull in one direction unless you counter. I took it apart and fixed this by putting wire shielding around the part of the spring that operates the rudder. It still is loose but it at least springs back to center now. This is not a unique problem to me. Searching google and tons of people who actually know what to look for run into this. If you're handy, buy this and fix it. If you use separate rudder controls, you can lock the twist on this, which is a nice feature. In that case you should also buy this. If you want to use this for rudder and have no tinkering ability, I would pass on this. It's too bad as well because otherwise it's a nice stick. Be aware, the twist action (rudder) is super sensitive on this stick. I have no idea why. It's in the firmware as well. You will hit full rudder lock long before hitting full twist. The sensors also clip in the corners of the joystick, so either this is a round sensor that is over large, or a square one that is over small. Not sure which. This isn't an issue though, it performs fine, it would just have been nice if there was no clipping on the sensor at extreme angles. For the price though you can't complain. That's why I'm really only complaining about the rudder because they could fix that for free essentially if they bothered to take even half a second to investigate it. Another common complaint is that it's not smooth where your palm rests on the stick. My unit was smooth, but taking it apart I saw a clip on the underside of the rest that needs to be unclipped to take it apart. If this is not cliped from factory this could cause what people are reporting. Just push the clip on, which anyone can do in literally one second, and it should solve this issue if you have it. I hope this review helps.

I recently tried the War Thunder Beta and decided I needed a decent budget price joystick. Mouse and keyboard control is the simplest but not very rewarding neither does it feel like you are actually flying. I chose the Logitech Extreme 3D after reading some decent reviews and having used many Logitech products in the past and always been pleased with performance and reliability. The Logitech Extreme 3D Pro is no exception. It has been around and unchanged quite a few years. It has a heavy solid base with grippy rubber pads that stick to the desk without using suction cups or any other annoying contraptions. The stick feels solid and centers well. It’s not force feedback, but to be honest force feedback is mostly a gimmick and can put off your aim if it jolts at a bad moment. Modern planes do not use cables where old ones do so I suppose the force feedback may be nice in a biplane but anything modern probably not. It has full pitch, roll and yaw rudder control. Rudder by twisting the stick and 12 buttons plus a digital hat switch (small joystick on top). Setting up is dead simple. For best results calibrate your joystick with the OS first and then use the proprietary software. The stick is far more accurate than any of the game pads I used previously. The 360 and playstation sticks only managed about 70% of travel in the diagonals like a rounded diamond. Where the Logitech manages 0 – 100% The rudder works well but does need some discipline when you are flying a combat plane in a tense situation. In Arcade it’s not such a big deal, but in a more realistic flight model rudder can throw your plane into a flat spin which will put you out of action pretty fast. Especially if you don’t have the altitude to recover. The throttle works well but it very sensitive, especially at the top of the range. If you have afterburn and can push the throttle beyond max for short periods like you can in War Thunder you may want to get some software to allow you to set curves and ease off the top end of the throttle. The buttons are all precise digital buttons and the hat switch works well for looking around the plane and getting fair situation awareness. So for this game it’s a great. The stick comes with no software, but there is a profiler configuration program for it available from the Logitech website. It’s worth installing as it does offer you some flexibility if you play several games and want to tweak how the stick performs. If you want the ultimate utility for configuring the stick I recommend Pinnacle Game Profiler. Which lets you set a lot of actions with quite a lot of flexibility. Long button hold for alternate functions, or setting your own modifier/shift button. As well as custom dead zone, sensitivity etc. Anyway it’s a great stick. As I mentioned before mouse control is easiest with the game I’m playing. But joystick feels so much more real and immersive and gives you an edge if you use the more advanced combat modes with realistic physics. A great stick that I highly recommend. Especially for the relatively low price. It's a great beginner introductory stick to get you into flight sims.

Seems to be fairly well made and happy with it so far for playing ED. Excellent value as it was bought at a discounted price.

Funziona bene sia con Flight Simulator X che con X-Plane 11

Mein oller 20 jähriger Extreme 3D Pro Joystick hatte schon einige Macken und es war Zeit für eine Erneuerung. Mein neuer Extreme 3D Pro Joystick läuft wie am Schnürchen ohne Fisimatenten und Sperenzchen. Kaum zu glauben, dass so ein komplexes Teil zu diesem Preis zu bekommen ist, auch weil ich meinen Extreme 3D Pro Joystick in Einzelteile zerlegt habe, neu gelötet und wieder zusammen geschraubt habe.

Un excelente joystick en su nivel de precio. Muy buen controlador de vuelo para principiantes. Buena estabilidad, buen agarre, firmeza adecuada en sus movimientos y se siente bastante resistente. Con 12 botones de buena retroalimentación, tres ejes y acelerador. USB, totalmente Plug and play en Windows 10, una gran diferencia contra un gamepad o el teclado. En FSX, la aplicación lo reconoce de inmediato. No es un HOTAS pero es un excelente control para empezar. En general un buen producto y definitivamente una excelente relación calidad precio. El único detalle es que está diseñado ergonómicamente para diestros. No lo recomendaría para una persona zurda. Lo compré de importación y llegó sin problema y 2 días antes de lo esperado. Muy satisfecho.

tek sıkıntım 'yaw' eksenin biraz gevşek olmasıydı, deadzone koyunca o da çözüldü